Brain Science: Why Sparring Gets Out of Control – Neurology and Muay Thai
We all know the bro (or the female version) who says “Let’s go light” in sparring, and then whacks you. Or, when you get a hit in they suddenly step it up two notches in a way that seems inordinately ego-driven, like they’re trying to “win” at sparring. What’s up with these people? Don’t they know how to spar? It turns out that although there indeed may be all kinds of psychological reasons why people just hit back harder than they are hit – not understanding their own size, or just being a jerk – there also may be a neurological reason: our brains don’t experience the levels of intensity accurately. Even with our highly sensitive fingertips we cannot accurately feel just how hard we are pushing and being pushed. In reality, it’s all in your head.
A very interesting study was conducted in 2003 called “Two Eyes for an Eye: The Neuroscience of Force Escalation” (illustration above) – you can download the short study here. In it they describe the testing of our powers of judging how hard we are pushing back when we are pushed. It was a very simple study using force transducers which push against fingers. Subjects are asked to push back against the transducer with force equal to that they received. The transducer then returns a push with the same force at which it was pushed, but mathematically, rather than through subjective experience. If humans were good at this the transducer and the subject would push back and forth with a mirroring force that would not change over time. Under variable conditions though one thing remained constant: the shoving match between finger and transducer quickly became a runaway event, with the subject pushing back harder and harder, trying to match the perceived escalation of the transducer.
As it turns out the efference copy of our motor actions – the body imaging we use to predict and gauge our effect on the world – is inherently sensorally dulled, while when things happen to us they feel amplified. Simply put, you might feel like you’re taking up very little space on the bus the guy next to you is taking up the exact same amount but it feels to you like he might as well be lying down with his feet up. It is built-in that we experience the world impacting us more forcefully than how we are impacting the world, at a very basic touch level. Several writers have connected this hardwired escalation to the reason why shoving matches get out of control. One can see how it would affect sparring as well. You feel like you’re going light, then you feel like you got hit harder than what you perceive you’re giving out, so you go a bit harder – but you’re hitting a person with the same subjective ability to judge intensity, not a machine with mathematical algorithms, so your partner goes harder, too. Real escalation.
Thais Do Spar Differently – Psychology and Culture
Dominance, not Aggression
It takes just 1o minutes in most Thai gyms to see that Thais spar differently from westerners. There is a myth going around out there that Thais don’t “spar hard,” and that the reason for this is because they fight so frequently. This may be the case in some gyms, but from what I’ve seen and experienced at a few different gyms and youtube videos out there of champions sparring, there is indeed hard sparring in Thailand among Thais. What’s universally “light” about Thai sparring is the attitude brought by the guys engaging in the play fight. In Muay Thai the hardness of the strike is a demonstration of domination, not of aggression, at least not as we’d recognize the concept in the west. The difference is glaring. Let’s assume that like the subjects of the study, Thais also experience the dis-equal force of an opponent sparring for neurological reasons. The way that they respond to this experience is very different. You do not show what affects you in Muay Thai, you don’t acknowledge it visibly and the escalation is absolutely not manifested with an emotional burst. Rather, the escalation is theatrical, not even necessarily with greater force, and it’s used to re-set the equality between the two sparring; to correct or calibrate the dominance scale. Once that is done (or failed) things settle immediately back down to sanook, to play. If there is a point still to be scored or neutralized it is kept in the mind, for retribution.
Getting Objective About It
When I hung out with fighter Amy Davis at Lion’s Fight in Las Vegas several years ago I remember her relating a story about how her husband and trainer Darrin Davis hits her in practice. She talked about how during the session she was getting pissed because it felt like he was clobbering her and hitting unnecessarily hard, especially given their size disparity (Amy is much smaller, even though she’s strong as hell). Later, when she looked at video of the tape she saw how Darrin was barely touching her – like just kind of patting her with the glove or focus mitt or whatever. I can attest that there is an emotional component when a spouse or “significant other” is training you – I take everything personally when Kevin works with me, the exact same stuff I would tolerate much better from a trainer or practically anyone I’m not sexually and emotionally invested in – but it would seem that the dis-equal perception of striking strength also plays a strong part. More or less objective tools like video tape can let you know if you are experiencing these things with distortion.
Sparring too Light – If you are someone who somewhere in their lives resists escalation instinctively – I think women can be like this, in particular if they experienced violence on a personal level, but also just because, culturally, we are taught to be more passive – how does the mis-perception of contact strength affect you? It may mean that even when you are sparring at equal force, you are experiencing it as your sparring partner going harder than you are. You may find yourself reducing the force of your strikes over and over, trying to “turn the heat down”, when in fact it already had begun at equilibrium. This, unfortunately is to some degree the opposite instinct one wants in a fight. You can find yourself training non-escalation, or even de-escelation of force, while experiencing dis-equal striking. In a fight, you want to end up on top, or as the final word, on every escalation.
Conclusion
It’s hard to say that there aren’t sparring partners who quite frankly are going too hard, when it stops being beneficial for both parties. There are also just bullies – people who have to “win” at practice. It’s also rare to have a sparring partner who is your same size – we don’t weigh in for training and generally we come in all different shapes and sizes – so you’ll end up being much bigger, or much smaller, or at a different proficiency level than your sparring partner. We do our best to take our strength up or down accordingly, to try to make it helpful for everyone. But it’s likely that the miscommunication between sparring partners is taking place at a neurological level as well. As much as we give conscious effort to create equality between two dis-equal partners, our brains are also working against us by distorting our perception of what’s taking place, often to our disfavor: we’re hitting with perfect power but this jerk-wod just keeps hitting too hard.
It’s hard to know how to solve this. Just knowing that your mind is perceiving things other than how they may actually be can make a big difference in creating better communication between partners. There are jerks, but maybe it’s you. In the same way that Thai sparring is seen as “light” because of attitude, the perception of intensity is, I believe, largely influenced by emotional components – something Thais are not immune from experiencing but are very adroit at not expressing, culturally. I think that by understanding the neurological distortion of perception can help us to avoid becoming emotional about what we see as going on in sparring. Get the point back by all means, but do so to bring it back to an equilibrium, rather than the run-away escalation of trying to match the physical intensity of your partner, which may be far different from how it is registering to your brain.
Such an interesting subject. I love your posts about Muay Thai as seen from a scientific/cultural/historical/social perspective.
I totally see what you’re saying about perception and emotion playing into sparring intensity, as I myself have felt this many times at the gym and have only recently begun to understand and deal with.
Thanks for talking about this subject, looking forward to reading more about the scientific side of MT!
I found this post really interesting. Do you have any scientific background? If not, that makes your perceptiveness even more remarkable.
When i was boxing we sparred three times a week (more often if you wanted -I did). We were expected to spar hard, on the grounds that you had to learn to control your reaction to a hard punch <em) before you got into the ring for a real fight. There’s a lot of truth in that, I think. But sometimes it would escalate in exactly the way you describe. I’d always attributed the escalation to a lack of self-discipline -the very thing that you were trying to learn. if you didn’t take a punch calmly a natural reaction was to hit back harder. But your post casts a new light on the phenomenon. Thanks for that.
Thanks for your reply. I don’t have any formal background in science but it makes for good reading. Especially when considering something so subjective as perceived intensity – I certainly experience “body dismorphia” in the context of Muay Thai, thinking that I look or perform FAR differently from what it looks like from the outside. So it makes a lot of sense that we all experience this to some degree. Couple that with how you “feel” someone else is performing and the distortion makes the whole experience like walking through the “fun house mirror” maze.
I think the message in sparring remains the same from when you were a kid. Be calm, be cool, be self-controlled. This neurological information just helps us keep it in perspective when it feels like someone else is out of control.
Well, that explains a lot. Thanks for surgically explaining this… I never understood why sparring partners felt the need to win hit harder.
I’m going to start referring to this post for a few people I think could benefit from some of the information shared. Thank you Sylvie!
Another knock-out article! I just posted my own reaction to it (and directed some folks here!).
I have found that what, OVERWHELMINGLY, has been helpful to me is the idea that we are in this together – that dude is my teammate, and he has NO CLUE what he’s doing or how hard he’s doing it. For the most part that has cured the super frustration. Then again, every so often someone will come at me (in my perception) extra hard – much harder than all my other sparring partners, and my feeling will be “okay dude, you wanna go hard, I’ll show you hard – if I can get on top.” I get on top and just drive my shoulder into their chest, or my entire weight on their face and think “Yeah dude – how you like me now.”
I swear I’m not a bully or a meaniehead. Usually I’m cool and the one with a freaking knee on my face thinking “how much am I paying to have this happen to me? Ah well – at least I can survive against this storm.”
Your post reminded me to remind myself that they’re like overzealous labrador retrievers who have no clue that their tail wagging just knocked over your vase – even though we are convinced the dog did it on purpose. The bullies are the cats who actually jump on the table, look you in the eye, and knock the vase down while maintaining eye contact.
Hmmm my metaphor got a little away from me. In any case, fantastic article!
Hi, I think the same thing can happen during a match. The perception of the opponent being much stronger than yourself, while maybe he or she is thinking exactly the same. Interesting thought to have for my next match: ‘Although it might look like he’s being stronger or better, it’s my perception of him. Now go and kick some ass.’ Big thumbs up for the article!